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Basics of Banking

Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:50 AM EST
business, american, financial, bailout
By OldPhartbsa
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The Federal Reserve controls "money" by an arbitrary inter-bank interest rate. When the Fed set its "rate", if it's higher, it shrinks "money" available to lend; likewise, when it's lower it increases "money" available to lend.

Over the entire system is a concept called "fractional reserve banking". That means that if you deposit $10,000 into a bank, that bank can CREATE money by lending out $100,000 at a 10 to 1 reserve ratio. Banks pay you 4% interest on your $10,000, yet make 7% or more on $100,000 (You get $400 from the bank, they make $7,000 (less $400) from your money).

The banks are not making loans because they have to power not to. They have collected a lot of capital since the last minor recession. A sharp recession or depression will reduce the price of all sorts of properties...and the banks will begin buying them up. Along the way, sheer individual financial pain will put the banks into an even stronger position as governments come to them, in time, with hat in hand.

When that happens, who do you think will be calling the shots? (Of course, we've reached that point already.)

We have a debt-based economy. That means that nothing happens unless somebody borrows from somebody else. In our structure, borrowing generally happens between an individual and an institution. (If a private individual charged the same rate that credit card companies do it's called loan-sharking and usery)

Taking a loan from a bank doesn't mean they have $100,000 in their safe. They write a check drawn from the Federal Reserve based on your signed note (which is their asset). The interest on the note doesn't go the Federal Reserve it goes to the private owners (i.e. stockholders) of the bank...after expenses...employee wages, executive compensation, golden parachutes, luxurious marketing "retreats" and etcetera.

This is massive corporate welfare (I always hated that term, but this is the real thing) and governmental malfeasance at all levels...executive, legislative and judicial. The cap on dividends shafts the private citizen stockholder to the benefit of the executives and board. Also, as all capital is locked away and steadily increases...what was once deflation switches to hyper-inflation when the banks begin to dump cash into the economy.

Our fiat money is already valueless, meaning there is no inherent wealth in our money. It is paper and coins made of various worthless alloys. The only time money had a true inherent value was when Andrew Jackson produced the Greenback, green paper backed by gold. This money was phased out by the institution of the Federal Reserve. This money was backed by Congress and was limited in issue by statute.

Pull out a dollar and read it. It says it is a Federal Reserve Note, not a United States Note. Our money is not regulated by Congress as it was intended to be by our nations' founders. We do not have the full faith and credit of the United States in our currency. We have a loan from the Federal Reserve made to banks that was then loaned to someone else who used it to pay some sort of debt. You are the current holder of that original loan.

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Dan-470975

The BEST STIMULUS package we could receive is to have a moratorium of 6 MONTHS NO interest on credit cards.

Instead of that I am getting notices in the mail about how the rates are going to be increased!

Government really needs to regulate the credit card industry
THEY are the major causes of financial problems
!

    Reply#1 - Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:06 AM EST
    economics101

    Great explanation!

    You missed the kicker - when they make bad loans, the FDIC and other regulators require that the losses come from the capital structure of the banks, not the deposits. Thats why Paulson has been injecting money directly into the banks, and not buying up the bad paper - they need the capital infusion to maintain what's left of the capital of the banks - thats also why they aren't lending anymore - but he should have known that!

    The other important part is that tis colossal scam requires an ever expanding debt load which must increase exponentially to keep the system going. You see, they create only the principal of the loans - not the interest. Interest must be created by future debts which have not yet been paid. Therefore, the system must inflate exponentially to stay liquid and keep making the payments - this is why deflation is such a problem ... the whole system breaks down - and we are all broke! 

      Reply#2 - Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:33 AM EST
      River-239955

      Banks pay you 4% interest on your $10,000, yet make 7% or more on $100,000 (You get $400 from the bank, they make $7,000 (less $400) from your money).

      I can see that they are doing it, but I can't see how they are justifying it, or how they are getting away with it. If I tried that on my accounts, I'd be in jail.

      We have a loan from the Federal Reserve made to banks that was then loaned to someone else who used it to pay some sort of debt. You are the current holder of that original loan.

      The liquid cash of the whole country wouldn't cover all the outstanding balances we have to one another right now, much less the delinquent debt to other countries.

      I feel cheated. And robbed... This "Federal Reserve" that has generated so many problems for us needs to be phased out, badly. Those private entities who are controlling it do not belong at the head of my finances, nor those of my child.

      Was it the Federal Reserve that hatched the schemes such as hedge funds, derivatives, and ARMs ?

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      Reply#3 - Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:41 PM EST
      OldPhartbsa

      No those are offshoots of Congress repealing laws put into place after the Great Depression to prevent the same stuff from happening. Principle was the Glass Stegal Act that put a barrier in place to seperate banks from investments. This law was repealed under Clinton and repeated warnings from Bush to rein them in were over ridden by Congress.

      Congress alone has the constitutional duty and obligation to coin or mint money. They have passed this responsibility over to the Federal Reserve which began counterfeiting operations in 1913. The experiment with the counterfeit continued into the 60's as the governmetn found that the federal reserve note was accepted as money by the population.

      Money can be anything that is accepted for trade...gold, silver, paper, even sticks and seashells have been used successfully.

      I was tracking the printing earlier this year, along with Congressional obligations made with each bail out, stimulus or other expenditure. I had monthly progress reports until it became so ridiculously high it wasn't worth the effort. The numbers are staggering. Here's the last report as a link. http://oldphartbsa.newsvine.com/_news/2009/10/05/3352234-how-the-stimulus-is-working

      At the end of 2007 there was about 850 billion (850,000,000,000) amerian dollars in worldwide circulation. Since then that has grown to $102 Trillion (102,000,000,000,000), a 124% increase as of the beginning of October. They are literally running the printing presses at maximum speed, 24 hours a day just to creat that volume (though honestly, much of it hasn't been created yet).

      Let's say you have a very rare parrot. You paid $1,000 for it. Right after you buy it, the very same parrot is discovered on some remote island and there are millions of them. You can buy a mate for yours for $3.00. The value lost between your $1,000 parrot and it's $3.00 mate is inflation due to overabundance in the market.

      The federal dollar is in the same situation. It takes roughly $40 federal dollars to buy a real American Silver Eagle Dollar. That puts the federal dollar equal to $0.025 to the American Silver Eagle dollar.

      http://oldphartbsa.newsvine.com/_news/2009/10/06/3354653-us-mint-out-of-silver-no-eagles-produced-

      http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/the-myth-of-taxpayers%e2%80%99-money/

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      #3.1 - Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:06 AM EST
      OldPhartbsa

      I realized that I hadn't answered your question about "hedge funds, derivatives, and ARMs ?"

      Those are acutally creatures of Congressional action requiring banks to expand their lending base to those with poorer credit. Another byproduct of repealing Glass Stegal and ACORN actions. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are Congressional creations that helped layer the pressure and subsidized the operations by bying the loans with taxpayer money. Fannie and Freddie are broke, existing on bail outs from taxpayers.

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      #3.2 - Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:17 AM EST
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      OldPhartbsa

      For more on hedges, derivatives and ARMs

      http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28816321/inside_the_great_american_bubble_machine

      and

      http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/06/24/matt-taibbi-vs-goldman-sachs/

      • 2 votes
      Reply#4 - Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:26 AM EST
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